“I Thought the Whole Purpose of Fighting a War was to Win it”
Another email from Iraq. Note. The opinions expressed in this email are that of the emailer only and necessarily not those of the Army or the DOD.
There are targets of opportunity all over the place here, there’s about a 99.9% probability that certain buildings, religious areas, neighborhoods, etc are specifically targeting US soldiers and specifically contribute to the death of US soldiers and coalition forces.
BUT, we are in a “sovereign country” so if we want to attack entire neighborhoods full of bad people the US has to ask the Iraqi government, and you can guess that the answer will most likely be NO. I understand the purpose and reason behind it, but it SUCKS. I was talking to the Major and he thinks we should be A. Blowing up more stuff, and B. Shooting more bad
guys.
I said I think we should state “Okay Iraqi government, you need our help right now, or you want it, but if you want it and we are going to risk our soldiers lives then you will have to do things the way we want them otherwise you forfeit our help, period end of story.”
No more US soldiers taking in some guy and him getting released, no more talk of “amnesty” for people who put bombs out. We draw a line in the sand. Ergo, you put a bomb out, we will kill you armed or not armed because a bad guy carrying a cell phone is probably more dangerous than a guy with an AK.
Also, we give a warning (more than fair) to the nearest house/neighborhood and let them know, you are responsible for this area, keep it clear, if you don’t then you will lose your home. The response by some people is, “Hey but then they’ll just become part of the problem
and become terrorists.”
Yup, and they will be obvious and shortly after they “become” terrorists they will be dead because US soldiers have the ability to go out and hunt down and kill the bad guys AND those aiding the bad guys (for WHATEVER reason).
Another annoyance is hearing the assumption… “well these bad guys are taking innocents, putting bombs on them, and making them walk down the road otherwise they will kill their family.”
Yes, the bad guys do that because they believe it’s effective against US troops.
How would we make it ineffective? That line in the sand, cooperate with the bad guys for whatever reason and you will be treated as a terrorist (straight from the Bush doctrine, just at a micro level. Instead of states that sponsor terrorists I’m talking about individuals,
neighborhoods, etc).
Would it “create” more terrorists? Probably. Could the US forces more effectively handle them? Probably.
Heck I don’t know, it sounds good to me, because it makes sense. Perhaps it’s not “realistic” in the way the Baker Commission terms it, but I thought the whole purpose of fighting a war was to win it, the bottom line.
The troops shouldn’t have to worry about this. If the constraints on them were loosened we would have much more success…..maybe, even……. victory.
This is heartening at least…….
“We’re not going to give up. The stakes are too high and the consequences too grave.”
Hot Air has more.
Another email from Iraq is here.
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Bush Ignores The Democrats Call To Retreat...
Since the release of the Iraq Study Groups report the Democrats have been jumping up and down and yelling that the Bush administration to cut and change course and redeploy from Iraq, but the President has ignored their calls and forged ahead....
December 14th, 2006 | #
That's because HE is committed to victory for the sake of our nation's safety and the Dems are surrender monkeys!
December 14th, 2006 | #
George W Bush needs to grow a pair. He is becoming a wimp bisquit and our very own republican Jimmy Carter.
December 14th, 2006 | #
This is a prescription too kill everone in Iraq. Level the homes/Kill the people who live near where attacks take place? Kill everone with a cell phone? If this happened to your family and your house what would you do?
December 14th, 2006 | #
Turn in the terrorists that I've been afraid to do so in the past.
December 14th, 2006 | #
Well, maybe if Bush had come up with another idea other than "stay the course", we wouldn't be where we are now. Bush is LAZY.
December 14th, 2006 | #
TheCraig says: "This is a prescription too kill everone in Iraq. Level the homes/Kill the people who live near where attacks take place? Kill everone with a cell phone? If this happened to your family and your house what would you do?"
The last question is not the relevant one. The relevant one is: What would you do if you saw US troops behaving in this manner? Sane people would band together and make damn sure that there was no such activity in their neighborhood. Insane people would join the hell-raisers and therefore be subject to the same treatment. I think this is exactly the outcome we should desire.
December 14th, 2006 | #
"Turn in the terrorists that I've been afraid to do so in the past?"
SURE, you'd go running right into the arms of those gun-totin' uniform-wearing non-Arabic-speakin' foreign devils who just killed your family and leveled your hometown! That's EXACTLY what you'd do!
NOT. My guess is that instead of reporting any bomb-makers, you'd instead quietly say to yourself, "vive la resistance," and go JOIN them instead.
Congratulations! You've just provided a textbook example of how to LOSE a counterinsurgency operation ...
December 14th, 2006 | #
Didn't Rumsfeld write the textbook on how to LOSE a counterinsurgency operation?
December 14th, 2006 | #
I've seen posts in other places about how 90 percent of the Sunnis want us out and support attacks on our troops. Don't know if that is true or not, but assuming that the majority of the Sunnis support the attacks then you just can't putter around and pretend that a hearts and minds campaign is working. You've got to convince the Sunni's that they will not win if they keep their crap up. Dropping a few bombs and leveling a few bad neighborhoods will get that message across that we mean business and that their bombs are just not as big. You have to make them afraid.
December 15th, 2006 | #
Didn't Rumsfeld write the textbook on how to LOSE a counterinsurgency operation?
My thoughts exactly, hearts and minds don't work.
December 15th, 2006 | #
Giving up and being a coward sure as heck doesn't work and that's a fact. All these "cut and run" weinie politicians and media dummies are emboldening our enemies. Our President and our troops have been sabotaged by the Reids, Pelosis, Murthas and Kerrys and their enablers like the New York Times, L.A. Times and the alphabet networks (CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and the barely watched MSNBC). And anyone who doesn't believe that is high on some controlled substance or not really very bright.
My solution is to make it very clear to the Iraqui government that they have to quit placating the fractious minority, then deal with Al-Sadr in a terminal sort of fashion, as well as the other militias. Make it absolutely impossible to misunderstand that WE expect the Iraqui government to disarm the militias NOW and quit screwing around.
As far as 90 percent of the Sunnis wanting anything, THEY ARE NOT THE GOVERNMENT OF IRAQ, and as my father always told me - opinion polls cannot be trusted EVER because "figures lie and liars figure". It was good advice then and it still is true now.
So take your defeatist nonsense and go peddle it elsewhere.
And have a nice weekend.
December 15th, 2006 | #